DssW - Mac OS X 10.4 - Tiger

Weird one... (couldn't unlock from sleep)

Sat, 03 May 2008 01:00:08 AZOST

I hate it when there are irreproducible faults, although in this case I
guess it's better than a permanent serious one. I went to wake up my
Powerbook G4 (running 10.4.something), which I have set to require a
password to wake from sleep. I enter my password and it tells me wrong name
or password. OK, must have mistyped (that first character getting lost
sometimes thing maybe.) Didn't work. Tried a couple of more times, typing
very slowly. No joy. Eventually got the "failed too many times" error.
OK, I have a couple of other accounts on the machine, so I told it to switch
users and tried a different one. Same problem -- wouldn't take the password
and eventually got the "too many times" error. Wondering how I'm going to
recover from this (envisioning I'm going to have to find my master password)
I shut it down by pressing and holding the power switch -- at least that
worked! Restarted and everything's fine. Go figure.

--
Ted Lee
Minnetonka, MN

iMac shuts down for no reason

Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:58:00 AZOST

In article <U7gPi.34$OQ6.6@newsfe06.lga>, Evan Z <a@b.c> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> My iMac G5 (10.4.10) keeps on turning off for no reason. I'll walk away
> from the computer, come back an hour later, and it'll be shut down. It
> almost always happens when I'm not using it, for whatever that's worth.
>
> About 2 years ago, the same computer would shut down every time it went
> to sleep. Apple replaced the power supply and that solved the problem.
>
> This time, there doesn't seem to be any connection to sleep mode. I've
> left it asleep overnight, and it's still been on in the morning. On the
> other hand, I know it's shut down minutes after I walked away from it,
> when it was still awake.
>
> I've run disk repair and the hardware test since this started happening,
> and both showed no problems.
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts about what this might be? Is there
> anything on the computer that I can check for clues (logs or anything
> like that)?
>
> Thanks for any help you can offer!
> -ez

Gremlins? Is it a coincidence that the same thing started happening to
my kid brother's G5 iMac the day before yesterday? Even though his is
still under AppleCare, he couldn't afford to be without it for the few
days, so he moved his Intel iMac purchase up a few weeks (was going to
buy after Leopard came out), did the Migration Assistant thing, and
took his in for service -- we should know the cause in a few days.

I had a similar problem with a Wintel box and a PowerMac G4 a few years
back -- in both cases it turned out to be power cords/plugs that just
weren't seating properly. That's now the first thing I check.

--
Spenser

17" MacBook Pro Battery

Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:07:16 AZOST

PostfixUser <Post@fix.com> wrote:

> My 17" MacBook Pro Battery has swelled to over double its original
> thickness. The system is 18mths old.
> I am running 10.4.10 and have always kept the updates current.
> Has anyone else had these problems? Are they the same issues as for the
> recall on the 15" machines?

I'd get in touch with Apple. There is a known issue with these batteries

<http://www.apple.com/uk/support/macbook_macbookpro/batteryupdate/>

They'll replace it for you.

--
Jon B
Above email address IS valid.
<http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs.

battery problem

Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:27:38 AZOST

In article <m24phbnbk5.fsf@comcast.net>,
Art Werschulz <agw@comcast.net> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> Running Mac OS X 10.4.10 on a MacBook Pro 15" (Intel Core Duo)...
>
> When running off the battery: At 40% remaining, the machine goes
> black and shuts down completely. There's no warning or low battery
> alert. The computer is *not* asleep; a hard reboot is necessary to
> bring it back to life.
>
> We have attempted to condition the battery by putting the Mac into
> sleep mode until there's no more juice, and then completely recharging
> the battery. Despite this, the problem persists.
>
> Does this mean that we need a new battery? Or is something else going
> on here?
>
> Many thanks!

Your battery might be defective. Check http://www.apple.com to see if
your battery is eligible for free replacement.

fan won't stop

Mon, 17 Sep 2007 10:24:30 AZOST

My Macbook Pro 2.2 core 2 duo has been great until I did the latest Pro
Application Support update. Now the computer runs generally hotter than
it did before and the fan runs non-stop. Running 10.4.10.

Rebooted, reset the SMU, repaired permissions - no change.

Any suggestions?

--
Bobby Owsinski
Surround Associates
http://www.surroundassociates.com

Author:
The Mixing Engineer's Handbook,
The Recording Engineer's Handbook,
The Mastering Engineer's Handbook
Thomson Course Technologies Publishing

Won't Shut Down! - iMac 800 G3 - TIGER OS X.4

Sun, 12 Aug 2007 16:40:40 AZOST

Salut Help Needed (funny names parents give their kids nowadays)

In article <Help.Needed-4EEF34.10340006082007@news.TITANnews.com>,
Help Needed <Help.Needed@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I have an iMac 800 G3 17" flowerpot....

sorry, you don't
G3 iMacs always had a 15" CRT Monitor
G3 iMacs were never faster than 700MHz

>768MB RAM... and I just
> installed Tiger OS X.4.1 ... and now it won't shut down.
>
> It runs beautifully... but just hangs on shut down.
>
> It will even go to sleep after 15 mins during shut-down, and wake up....
> but it never, never fully shuts down... just hangs at the blue-screen.
>
>
>
> What can I do to fix this?

First we'd like to know what Mac you have.

Will it shut down if you start it without Startup items?

Cheers
Andreas

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External Philips harddisk goes to sleep

Tue, 10 Jul 2007 05:13:48 AZOST

Hi -

here are 2 external harddisks for backup purposes. The one from
LaCie runs fine but not the one from Philips.

PSyncX works like this:

1) Scanning Destination Directory

2) Scanning Source Item (and here the Philips harddisk goes to sleep)

3) copying items (this doesn't wake up the harddisk)

The Philips customer service is not interested.

I searched the archives but using the keywords

"external harddisk usb sleep"

didn't yield anything useful.

One could build an Applescript to touch the harddisk every minute,
but perhaps there is an easier way?

10.4.9 is told to solve some USB problems - not this one,-)

In the System preferences>Energy saving I didn't mark "Put the harddisk(s)
to sleep when possible"*

*The expression may be not exactly translated from my German system.

Thank you in advance

Peter

SeaMonkey and sleep mode, with OSX

Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:15:19 AZOST

preface: I use SeaMonkey (SM), the continuation of the abandoned
Mozilla Suite.

post:
Any Mac OSX SM users have problems with their machine staying asleep?

I rarely ever turn my iMac G5 off, I just put it to sleep. SM is ALWAYS
running. Sometimes the machine wakes back up before I even leave the
room, sometimes I go away for an hour and come back and the machine is
awake with just the screen asleep. This has been going on since maybe
January (I do every OSX update the week it comes out and every SM one also).

I recently started quitting SM, and the problem seems to have gone away.
I know there's only a few OSX guys that read this group, could you try
duplicating my problem, or verifying if you are already "sleep prone
non-quitters"? ;-)

GW
SM 1.1.2 on OSX 10.4.10 on both iMac G5, and PowerBook G4
ps
I used to have a problem where if I clicked "get messages" too soon
after waking the machine up (i.e. network conn not reestablished yet) SM
would crash the whole User Account. I'd have to log-out, log-in. That
has either gone away or I finally learned to count to ten in my head
before clicking anything.

iMac won't sleep

Sat, 23 Jun 2007 02:47:19 AZOST

On 2007-06-22 19:47:19 -0500, Ian Gregory <foo@bar.invalid> said:

> Core 2 Duo iMac running 10.4.9
>
> Recently there have been a few occasions when my iMac has not gone
> to sleep when it should. I have tried explicitly telling it to
> sleep via the Apple menu but it just ignores me. I tried logging
> out and telling it to sleep from the login screen but still no
> luck. I ended up rebooting to restore correct behaviour.
>
> I suspect it may have something to do with USB. I recently
> started using my machine to recharge a mobile phone via USB.
> When I plug the phone in nothing mounts, so it seems like there
> is nothing to be done before unplugging it, but perhaps it
> is leaving the USB driver in a weird state? (I am not
> expecting it to sleep while the phone is actually plugged in).
>
> Does anyone have any ideas for further investigation? I know
> very little about USB issues.

I would definitely have a look for anything suspicious in your console
and system logs.

Viewing System and Console Logs

1. Open /Applications/Utilities/Console.

2. From the Console menu bar, select File > View System Log and File >
View Console Log. The system log will usually give you an indication as
to what is causing startup issues. The console log can show issues you
experience after you are logged into your user account.

3. If a particular application is crashing, you may find a crash log in
/Users/you/Library/Logs/CrashReporter/ for that application.

4. Feel free to send the logs to jolly roger at pobox dot com if you
need help understanding them. I'll be glad to take a look and tell you
what I see.\

--
JR

Powerbook not waking

Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:35:09 AZOST

My friend's Powerbook Titanium (so fairly ancient, and with a dead PRAM
battery) has lately developed a bad habit of not always waking from
sleep.

It will often wake ok, but on other occasions pressing a key turns the
sleep light off, but the screen remains black.

Does anyone know the cause and cure of this. It shouldn't be a PRAM
battery issue, as that is long-standing and this is new. The PB is
running on mains power, and is on 10.4.9

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RE:G5 won't shut down

Tue, 05 Jun 2007 01:57:49 AZOST

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May I express my thanks to Jolly Roger, Tacit, Matt Neuburg, and Paul Nevai.

You all have been very helpful in pointing me toward a resolution of the
problem with my G5 failing to shut down or restart normally.

My drive is the one that came with the G5 but some months ago I had
installed Speed Tools that came with another drive that I purchased from OWC
awhile back. It may be that it is an old version that is incompatible with
Tiger?

In any case, after some difficulty finding all the pieces¹ of the program
and deleting them, my drive now shuts down and restarts properly.

Generally, I leave my G5 on 24/7 so I seldom have occasion to do a shutdown.
On the few occasions that I had problems earlier this spring, I just assumed
it was an error of some sort that caused it. I was always able to turn it
off and restart manually and just didn¹t take the time to check it out until
last week.

While I sometimes enjoy reading the mostly irrelevant banter that goes on
between some who post here regularly, I must say that I believe my
experience here during the past few days is really what the group is all
about.

So thank you all for sharing your wisdom and insights with me!

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G5 won't shut down

Mon, 04 Jun 2007 23:51:09 AZOST

On 2007-06-02 21:21:42 -0500, "John M. Leggett" <L230j@verizon.net> said:

> I¹m running OS X (10.4.9) on a Dual 2 GHz PowerPC G5 with 512 MB DDR2 SDRAM.
>
> Recently it has been failing to shut down completely. It closes all open
> windows, ends all running applications, etc. and then just hangs. The only
> way I can get it to power off or to restart is to press the power switch.
>
> I thought maybe I¹d try repairing the boot disk, but I can¹t get the
> computer to start up from a CD/DVD. It puts the silver Apple on the screen
> along with a few extraneous lines here and there, then just hangs.
>
> Any ideas how to solve my problems? Thanks.

I would look at the system log to see what errors are posted there.
It's possible an item in /Library/StartupItems/ is misbehaving.

--
JR

more wake from sleep weirdness

Fri, 11 May 2007 16:20:03 AZOST

On 2007-04-30 09:26:39 -0500, RobertB <missinglink@cloud9.net> said:

> Apr 29 23:09:33 bliss kernel[0]: System Sleep
(snip)
> Apr 29 23:09:33 bliss kernel[0]: System Wake

Your system recorded consecutive sleep and wake events at 11:09:33 PM.
How sure are you the computer was asleep prior to this event?

--
JR

Closing MacBook Pro Lid w/o it Sleeping

Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:14:37 AZOST

Is there a way I can configure the Macbook Pro to stay running when i close
the lid? I have an old windows laptop that has an option in the system
preferences, but i can't find anything like this on the macbook pro.. is
there a third party program that lets you do this with the mac or is there
an option in the system preferences i missed. If it make a difference i have
my OS X updated to 10.4.9.
Thanks,
-Adam
adam79@toast.net

Sleep problems? -- Maybe

Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:20:06 AZOST

On 2007-04-26 21:55:00 -0500, Salmon Egg <salmonegg@sbcglobal.net> said:

> When I got home, the old problem showed up. I decided to disconnect all the
> cables and put them in one by one after zapping PRAM and PMU. Everything
> worked until I plugged in my Brother MFC-8640D into a PCI USB port. The
> disappearing cursor problem showed up again. When I switched it to a
> built-in USB port, I had no problems.

What make and model USB PCI card is that?

--
JR

Automatic switch off

Sun, 22 Apr 2007 18:36:51 AZOST

In article <1177239894.597111.215670@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
moksaa <moksaa@gmail.com> wrote:

> My computer has started to switch off or reboot automatically a few
> days ago. I haven't installed anything new. I've run a memory test and
> it's not a memory problem. Any ideas what could be causing this? I'm
> on an iMac G5, OSX 10.4.9.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> MV

Have you run the full hardware test that came with your machine?

Sleep/Wakeup problems?

Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:27:17 AZOST

I am using a late G4 desktop running 10.4.9. It happens in several ways.

One way is that I put my computer to sleep pressing the power button once
(It is set up to do so). I hear a click from the computer (relay?) as if it
goes to sleep, but the screen stays illuminated. My cursor disappears. I
cannot wake up the computer by pressing a key.

I will try something else, but I want to send this cry for help first.

I am thinking that I might have to reinstall the system because some files
got damaged.

Bill

Can't shutdown. Won't shutdown.

Wed, 18 Apr 2007 02:11:45 AZOST

In article <f037v11146@news1.newsguy.com>, Stephen Adams <adamst@no.spam> wrote:

> >My Mac Mini, version OSX 10.4.9, refuses to shut down correctly. The monitor
> >displays a grey screen telling me I must switch off the Mini using the power
> >button.
>
> This sounds like a kernel panic. Did you read the screen in detail? Try
> running DiskWarrior and/or TechTool Pro and scan the disk. One of the
> many possible causes of kernel panics (and a common one) is minor to moderate
> disk corruption.
>
> >I humbly obey but, when I switch on again, an annoying message tells
> >me that the damned thing shut down unexpectedly. A minor and trivial niggle,
> >I'm sure, but is there anything I can do to sort it?
>
> Fix the underlying problem that is causing the kernel panic. Start with
> the disk repair programs mentioned above. Let us know what happens after
> that....

Why? Kernel panics seem to be caused by poor drivers often in connection
with sleep. Ever since I turned computer sleep off (but keep screen
sleep), I haven't had any.

Hans Aberg

wake from sleep weirdness (10.4.9)

Sat, 14 Apr 2007 10:25:24 AZOST

In article <missinglink-0D987B.10424409042007@news.cloud9.net>,
RobertB <missinglink@cloud9.net> wrote:

> this is odd. I have an iMac core2duo, 10.4.9. I put the computer to
> sleep manually at night and wake it in the morning with a tap to the
> spacebar. I've done this with all my Macs for the past three years. This
> morning when I woke up the Mac was asleep, however, around 9:37
> (according to the system.log) the Mac woke from sleep without my
> pressing anything. Anyone know how that can happen.
>
> The only thing that happened around that time was a phone call I
> received that went to my answering machine and the caller hung up before
> leaving a message. Most likely a telemarketer.
>
> Remote wake? Gremlins?

Do you have a modem and is it hooked up? If so, it might have been:

System Preferences -> Energy Saver -> Options -> "Wake when the modem
detects a ring"

Steve
http://www.doctorjones.org/stanleycup/cup2007

10.4.9 broke sleep

Fri, 23 Mar 2007 21:17:03 GMT

PeterD <pd.news@dsl.pipex.invalid> wrote:

> I always used to use Cmd-opt-eject to sleep my PB, but since 10.4.9 this
> doesn't work any more. Am I the only one affected like this?

Since 10.4.9 you need to press the eject key (and any combination of
keys with the eject key) a bit longer.

--
marco

wake up scheduler

Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:05:00 GMT

Hi everyone
I'm looking for some way to wake my Mac (10.4.9) up at the time and date
I want it to. I have a program that makes last second bids on eBay for
me but if my Mac is asleep then the bid won't happen. Anyone have a
solution? I can use the energy saver preferences but that isn't
convenient at times.

Peter

Keyboard shortcut for Shut Down or Restart?

Wed, 21 Mar 2007 05:43:55 GMT

In article <barmar-D8CAC3.20405919032007@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> Did you install the 10.4.9 update that came out last week?
>
> Since this update you have to hold the key down for several seconds.
> They added the delay because people were ejecting CDs and DVDs when they
> hit the key accidentally.
>

That was certainly true here. As a result I'd got into the habit of
leaving the CD tray open when not in use.

--
Paul Sture

Keyboard command for sleep

Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:04:34 GMT

For a G3 iMac with 10.4.9: I always used to put the Mac to sleep by
pressing Control-Eject. All of a sudden this shortcut won't work and I
need to choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Why is this? Could I have disabled the command somehow? Is it a result
of installing various updates to the system?

Thanks,

Alan

How to stop start up items automatically?

Sat, 17 Mar 2007 20:56:17 GMT

--
Hi All

I have setup a profile to run my back ups from. running OSX 10.4.9 backing up
to external firewire using SuperDuper. I have the system scheduled to start
up on sundays, SuperDuper to run and shot down the system. Is there a way to
run some kind of script or script and hook so that profile and only that
profile start up without running the start up items?.... I'm fairly new to
Mac and have never worked with scripts and hooks.. but by what I've read so
far it seems the way to go. but have no idea in where to start..
So if some one can give some directions or point in the right direction it
will be greatly appreciated.

***In2Ndo***

UPS + 10.4

Fri, 16 Mar 2007 06:39:17 GMT

Hi, Can anyone recommend a brand of Uninterruptible power supply that
works well with OSX 10.4?
I'm thinking of the ones that have a usb port and software to shut down
the mac cleanly if the UPS kicks in.
Arthur

Automatically preventing start up items in auto login??

Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:47:19 GMT

...

Hi All.

Is there a way (liket a start up script) to have the profile that is
auto logging in start in... I think is called safe mode like when you
hold the shift key down so the start up items don't start..?? without
having to be at the system to hold down the key?? ..... I'm running
10.4.8

TIA

--
Ïñ²ÑÐ¤

What is happening to user start up settings?

Fri, 09 Mar 2007 22:23:18 GMT

Hello All,

All of the user settings on a mac running os tiger 10.4.3 are being
removed between reboots.

Does anybody have any ideas?

Thank You,

cannot start up MacPro

Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:31:23 GMT

Hve an Intel MacPro. Sys 10.4.8. I had power failure for a few
seconds. Now on start up I get login panel asking for name and
password. It will not accept what I know to be correct. I have run disk
utility from original system CD: no probs found. Have Zapped PRAM. Have
repaired permissions. Have repaired disk: no repairs necessary. Have
run fsck in single user mode. No probs found. Have tried safe boot.
Still i get login panel but no further. Any ideas very welcome.

Eudora prevents Intel Mac Sleep

Fri, 23 Feb 2007 07:27:29 GMT

Hi-

I'm using Eudora 6.2.4 (paid) on an Intel 10.4.8. Having Eudora
"running" prevents the computer from sleeping, although the display does.

Quitting Eudora allows sleep. Manually selecting sleep from the Apple
menu works. Eudora only checks for mail every 60 minutes, while the
Energy Saver is set up to sleep in 30 minutes. I've found several
reports of this on other forums (including this occurring with Eudora
set up for only manual checks), but no solutions.

Can anyone assist with a cure or work around?

Thanks in advance.

-- Roger