12" Powerbook G4 (1GHz) Sleep Problem

I've noticed that my Powerbook won't stay asleep if an external monitor is plugged into it.
Steven Fisher wrote on :
I've noticed that my Powerbook won't stay asleep if an external monitor is plugged into it. The light will flash once, then the unit will wake up. Anyone else having this problem? I think it's new to a recent software update, but I'm not sure which one. I'm running 10.3.3 (with all updates) now.
andrewunix replied on :

24 Apr 2004 07:16:54 -0700, sdfisher@redacted.invalid suggested: : I've noticed that my Powerbook won't stay asleep if an external : monitor is plugged into it. The light will flash once, then the unit : will wake up. Anyone else having this problem? I think it's new to a : recent software update, but I'm not sure which one. I'm running 10.3.3 : (with all updates) now.

Are you sleeping it by closing it, or are you sleeping it manually? You can't sleep it by closing it if an external monitor is plugged in, and this is by design.

Steven Fisher replied on :

andrewunix agreenbu@redacted.invalid wrote in message news:slrnc8ri0k.7pu.agreenbu@redacted.invalid...

24 Apr 2004 07:16:54 -0700, sdfisher@redacted.invalid suggested: : I've noticed that my Powerbook won't stay asleep if an external : monitor is plugged into it. The light will flash once, then the unit : will wake up. Anyone else having this problem? I think it's new to a : recent software update, but I'm not sure which one. I'm running 10.3.3 : (with all updates) now.

Are you sleeping it by closing it, or are you sleeping it manually? You can't sleep it by closing it if an external monitor is plugged in, and this is by design.

Manually, but only because it already had its lid closed so closing the lid wouldn't put it to sleep.

Elliott Roper replied on :

In article slrnc8ri0k.7pu.agreenbu@redacted.invalid, andrewunix agreenbu@redacted.invalid wrote:

24 Apr 2004 07:16:54 -0700, sdfisher@redacted.invalid suggested: : I've noticed that my Powerbook won't stay asleep if an external : monitor is plugged into it. The light will flash once, then the unit : will wake up. Anyone else having this problem? I think it's new to a : recent software update, but I'm not sure which one. I'm running 10.3.3 : (with all updates) now.

Are you sleeping it by closing it, or are you sleeping it manually? You can't sleep it by closing it if an external monitor is plugged in, and this is by design.

Shh. Don't tell my Powerbook. It nods off when I close the lid. The external monitor sleeps with it, falling gracefully into energy star mode. Since this happens with external monitors at home and work, and an earlier Powerbook behaved in exactly the same way on the same two monitors, I'd claim that was by design.

andrewunix replied on :

Wed, 28 Apr 2004 02:15:01 +0100, nospam@redacted.invalid suggested: : In article slrnc8ri0k.7pu.agreenbu@redacted.invalid, andrewunix :agreenbu@redacted.invalid wrote: : :> 24 Apr 2004 07:16:54 -0700, sdfisher@redacted.invalid suggested: :> : I've noticed that my Powerbook won't stay asleep if an external :> : monitor is plugged into it. The light will flash once, then the unit :> : will wake up. Anyone else having this problem? I think it's new to a :> : recent software update, but I'm not sure which one. I'm running 10.3.3 :> : (with all updates) now. :> :> Are you sleeping it by closing it, or are you sleeping it manually? You :> can't sleep it by closing it if an external monitor is plugged in, and :> this is by design. : : Shh. Don't tell my Powerbook. It nods off when I close the lid. The : external monitor sleeps with it, falling gracefully into energy star : mode. Since this happens with external monitors at home and work, and : an earlier Powerbook behaved in exactly the same way on the same two : monitors, I'd claim that was by design.

Well, from the manual, when you close your Powerbook to sleep it, plugging an external monitor and keyboard into it wakes it up. I'm guessing that something about this mechanism is at work here,

Elliott Roper replied on :

In article slrnc8u87b.fbf.agreenbu@redacted.invalid, andrewunix agreenbu@redacted.invalid wrote:

Wed, 28 Apr 2004 02:15:01 +0100, nospam@redacted.invalid suggested: : In article slrnc8ri0k.7pu.agreenbu@redacted.invalid, andrewunix :agreenbu@redacted.invalid wrote: : :> 24 Apr 2004 07:16:54 -0700, sdfisher@redacted.invalid suggested: :> : I've noticed that my Powerbook won't stay asleep if an external :> : monitor is plugged into it. The light will flash once, then the unit :> : will wake up. Anyone else having this problem? I think it's new to a :> : recent software update, but I'm not sure which one. I'm running 10.3.3 :> : (with all updates) now. :> :> Are you sleeping it by closing it, or are you sleeping it manually? You :> can't sleep it by closing it if an external monitor is plugged in, and :> this is by design. : : Shh. Don't tell my Powerbook. It nods off when I close the lid. The : external monitor sleeps with it, falling gracefully into energy star : mode. Since this happens with external monitors at home and work, and : an earlier Powerbook behaved in exactly the same way on the same two : monitors, I'd claim that was by design.

Well, from the manual, when you close your Powerbook to sleep it, plugging an external monitor and keyboard into it wakes it up. I'm guessing that something about this mechanism is at work here,

Yep, sounds like sdfisher's external monitor is prodding the Powerbook awake as soon as it sleeps. My post was to say that it is probably not normal behavior. Maybe (s)he could try a different monitor.

Steven Fisher replied on :

Elliott Roper nospam@redacted.invalid wrote in message news:280420041559111278%nospam@redacted.invalid...

Yep, sounds like sdfisher's external monitor is prodding the Powerbook awake as soon as it sleeps. My post was to say that it is probably not normal behavior. Maybe (s)he could try a different monitor.

I've used this monitor in the past without problems, though... I'm wondering if it's related to the extenral keyboard. I usually use one, but am not at the moment due to limited desk space. I'll try plugging one in for giggles.

Elliott Roper replied on :

In article 4559e820.0404301623.305ff2c7@redacted.invalid, Steven Fisher sdfisher@redacted.invalid wrote:

Elliott Roper nospam@redacted.invalid wrote in message news:280420041559111278%nospam@redacted.invalid...

Yep, sounds like sdfisher's external monitor is prodding the Powerbook awake as soon as it sleeps. My post was to say that it is probably not normal behavior. Maybe (s)he could try a different monitor.

I've used this monitor in the past without problems, though... I'm wondering if it's related to the extenral keyboard. I usually use one, but am not at the moment due to limited desk space. I'll try plugging one in for giggles.

I wish I could be more help Steven. Mine sleeps soundly whether I close the lid or sleep it any other way. It does not care if there is an external monitor plugged in. It does not care if the Bluetooth mouse is on or off. I have never seen it wake up again immediately except when I have wiggled the mouse or turned it off to late. When it does so, it wakes with just the second monitor working. A genuine lid-closed wake-up. 10.3.3 12" PB 1GHz.

Steven Fisher replied on :

Elliott Roper nospam@redacted.invalid wrote in message news:010520041931447303%nospam@redacted.invalid...

In article 4559e820.0404301623.305ff2c7@redacted.invalid, Steven Fisher sdfisher@redacted.invalid wrote:

Elliott Roper nospam@redacted.invalid wrote in message news:280420041559111278%nospam@redacted.invalid...

Yep, sounds like sdfisher's external monitor is prodding the Powerbook awake as soon as it sleeps. My post was to say that it is probably not normal behavior. Maybe (s)he could try a different monitor.

I've used this monitor in the past without problems, though... I'm wondering if it's related to the extenral keyboard. I usually use one, but am not at the moment due to limited desk space. I'll try plugging one in for giggles.

I wish I could be more help Steven. Mine sleeps soundly whether I close the lid or sleep it any other way. It does not care if there is an external monitor plugged in. It does not care if the Bluetooth mouse is on or off. I have never seen it wake up again immediately except when I have wiggled the mouse or turned it off to late. When it does so, it wakes with just the second monitor working. A genuine lid-closed wake-up. 10.3.3 12" PB 1GHz.

I used to be able to open it, plug keyboard, mouse and monitor in, close it, then click to wake it up again. I was annoyed I had to wake it up before plugging things in -- why should plugging in a mouse wake it up anyway?!? -- but it worked. Then it would run on only the external monitor until I chose sleep, at which point it would -- and here's the part that doesn't work right now -- actually friggin' sleep.

I tried plugging in a keyboard. That didn't help. It seems to have been some sort of change in the system software. I've left feedback about it, maybe it will get fixed one day.

Roger replied on :

In article 4559e820.0405031743.17f0cd20@redacted.invalid, sdfisher@redacted.invalid (Steven Fisher) wrote:

Elliott Roper nospam@redacted.invalid wrote in message news:010520041931447303%nospam@redacted.invalid...

In article 4559e820.0404301623.305ff2c7@redacted.invalid, Steven Fisher sdfisher@redacted.invalid wrote:

Elliott Roper nospam@redacted.invalid wrote in message news:280420041559111278%nospam@redacted.invalid...

Yep, sounds like sdfisher's external monitor is prodding the Powerbook awake as soon as it sleeps. My post was to say that it is probably not normal behavior. Maybe (s)he could try a different monitor.

I've used this monitor in the past without problems, though... I'm wondering if it's related to the extenral keyboard. I usually use one, but am not at the moment due to limited desk space. I'll try plugging one in for giggles.

I wish I could be more help Steven. Mine sleeps soundly whether I close the lid or sleep it any other way. It does not care if there is an external monitor plugged in. It does not care if the Bluetooth mouse is on or off. I have never seen it wake up again immediately except when I have wiggled the mouse or turned it off to late. When it does so, it wakes with just the second monitor working. A genuine lid-closed wake-up. 10.3.3 12" PB 1GHz.

I used to be able to open it, plug keyboard, mouse and monitor in, close it, then click to wake it up again. I was annoyed I had to wake it up before plugging things in -- why should plugging in a mouse wake it up anyway?!? -- but it worked. Then it would run on only the external monitor until I chose sleep, at which point it would -- and here's the part that doesn't work right now -- actually friggin' sleep.

I tried plugging in a keyboard. That didn't help. It seems to have been some sort of change in the system software. I've left feedback about it, maybe it will get fixed one day.

My iBook 600 (10.3.3) won't sleep properly if I have my usb mouse plugged in.

Rog