In article 1115735763.965787.46390@redacted.invalid, "lewdvig" plongin@redacted.invalid wrote:
Apple. There are some sellers on eBay but they are selling them with generic cords that do not fit the brick (kind of stupid).
what are you, a apple salesman? The ac adaptor from apple is about $70.
You can get third party brand new ac adaptors for $25 -$40. The macally
ac adaptor is an example.
In article steve-C21DF1.22440110052005@redacted.invalid, steve steve@redacted.invalid wrote:
In article 1115735763.965787.46390@redacted.invalid, "lewdvig" plongin@redacted.invalid wrote:
Apple. There are some sellers on eBay but they are selling them with generic cords that do not fit the brick (kind of stupid).
what are you, a apple salesman? The ac adaptor from apple is about $70.
You can get third party brand new ac adaptors for $25 -$40. The macally ac adaptor is an example.
So is $25 not cheap enough, that you have to ask for an even cheaper one?
You get what you pay for. You don't get a 60 watt adapter, (it's 45 watts), and you don't get a plug that lights up different colors so you know the status of the charging, like you'd get with an Apple adapter.
Those things don't matter to you, so get the cheap Macally one. It'll work.
I suppose that anyone that supports buying Apple parts, including a charger, has to be an Apple salesman, right? I'm not, and I guess I could say that anyone who shops for computers and parts by price and not quality should be using a PC and not a Mac.
You didn't ask for a good one, or you'd get the Apple one. You just want a cheap one, and it appears that the $25 one doesn't seem to be cheap enough (or you would have bought it already).
On Wed, 11 May 2005 02:39:16 -0400, Steve wrote:
You get what you pay for. You don't get a 60 watt adapter, (it's 45 watts), and you don't get a plug that lights up different colors so you know the status of the charging, like you'd get with an Apple adapter.
You may get 60 W, 75 W or more for less than $20. But you're right about the proprietary Apple plug: the inner one is an ordinary 2.5 mm plug, while the outer one for sensing is special. You don't need it.
- Martin
Stay away from Kensington
steve wrote:
In article 1115735763.965787.46390@redacted.invalid,
what are you, a apple salesman? The ac adaptor from apple is about $70.
You can get third party brand new ac adaptors for $25 -$40.
Stay away from Kensington
steve wrote:
In article 1115735763.965787.46390@redacted.invalid,
what are you, a apple salesman? The ac adaptor from apple is about $70.
You can get third party brand new ac adaptors for $25 -$40.
In article slrnd83ik2.pm3.t-use@redacted.invalid, Martin Trautmann t-use@redacted.invalid wrote:
On Wed, 11 May 2005 02:39:16 -0400, Steve wrote:
You get what you pay for. You don't get a 60 watt adapter, (it's 45 watts), and you don't get a plug that lights up different colors so you know the status of the charging, like you'd get with an Apple adapter.
You may get 60 W, 75 W or more for less than $20. But you're right about the proprietary Apple plug: the inner one is an ordinary 2.5 mm plug, while the outer one for sensing is special. You don't need it.
- Martin
That's right Martin. It's not really necessary, but it's not a bad luxury to have. Actually, when it comes to having better equipment, I don't let a few bucks stand in the way, especially if you figure the difference in cost spread out over the few years you'd have the equipment.
If a cheaper adapter is $30 and the better one is $50, and I keep it for 4 years, then it comes out to $5 a year for the better piece. Why get the cheaper one, unless you know for sure that the cheaper one is better, and they rarely are.
Steve
That's right Martin. It's not really necessary, but it's not a bad luxury to have. Actually, when it comes to having better equipment, I don't let a few bucks stand in the way, especially if you figure the difference in cost spread out over the few years you'd have the equipment.
If a cheaper adapter is $30 and the better one is $50, and I keep it for 4 years, then it comes out to $5 a year for the better piece. Why get the cheaper one, unless you know for sure that the cheaper one is better, and they rarely are.
Ok, do you pay $50 to get a genuine apple ac from a third party, or do you pay the msrp of $70 to get the exact same adaptor from apple? To say Apple is the cheapest, one has to be a apple salesman.
I am not an Apple sales person. I like the Apple brick. I am also looking to get one for my TiBook and the Apple one strikes me as best. I have not found any deals on Apple branded bricks other than the rip-offs on eBay.
As for going cheap - these things get hot. Heat results in failure. Failure results in my house burning down. I will spend the extra $20 and drink four fewer Stellas this week.
In article steve-980D70.22481611052005@redacted.invalid, steve steve@redacted.invalid wrote:
That's right Martin. It's not really necessary, but it's not a bad luxury to have. Actually, when it comes to having better equipment, I don't let a few bucks stand in the way, especially if you figure the difference in cost spread out over the few years you'd have the equipment.
If a cheaper adapter is $30 and the better one is $50, and I keep it for 4 years, then it comes out to $5 a year for the better piece. Why get the cheaper one, unless you know for sure that the cheaper one is better, and they rarely are.
Ok, do you pay $50 to get a genuine apple ac from a third party, or do you pay the msrp of $70 to get the exact same adaptor from apple? To say Apple is the cheapest, one has to be a apple salesman.
Buy the $25 one already and stop whining. You obviously don't want to buy the reliable, safe, more expensive Apple one, and if that is what you want, then do it. You just seem to be upset that the rest of us put up an argument for quality and reliability, will spend a little more, and that must mean we are all Apple salesmen. So be it.
Steve Steve@redacted.invalid wrote:
You obviously don't want to buy the reliable, safe, more expensive Apple one
I would not call Apple's AC adapter reliable -- at least not if that means long-lasting. The DC cable and plug are fairly fragile. Apple's design is about the most compact and portable you can find, but it isn't the sturdiest.
In article 1gwgf03.1005xwmpawqewN%neillmassello@redacted.invalid, neillmassello@redacted.invalid (Neill Massello) wrote:
Steve Steve@redacted.invalid wrote:
You obviously don't want to buy the reliable, safe, more expensive Apple one
I would not call Apple's AC adapter reliable -- at least not if that means long-lasting. The DC cable and plug are fairly fragile. Apple's design is about the most compact and portable you can find, but it isn't the sturdiest.
They put a stronger thicker cable and end strain on the AC adapter that is now available. I still have 2 of the older ones, and one of the newer ones (I have 2 ibooks and a powerbook), so I see how it was improved. Let's face it, they can't know it's not reliable until they see it fail, and then they made the improvement.
People want compact and portable. It seems the bigger ones are always sturdier, but I'd say that if you compare all of the smallest AC adapters to any bigger adapter, you'd say the smaller ones are more fragile. It's got to be the nature of the beast.
Their design is not much different from anyone else's OEM adapter. By
nature, just how sturdy can they be? A notebook computer isn't that
sturdy either. All electronics and parts should be handled with care.
If you don't want to handle something with care, you shouldn't be
surprised if it fails. I've never ruined any AC adapter whether big or
small, so I don't see the ability of any small AC adapter being more
sturdy than the Apple one. I DO know that it regulates the power
perfectly, it's universal so it works everywhere, it works fine, and
it's a perfect match for my notebooks.
I certainly see it as reliable, and by their recent improvements, Apple is looking to always make it better.
In article 1115814840.938105.83310@redacted.invalid, "-oo0-GoldTrader-0oo-" nomads_05@redacted.invalid wrote:
Stay away from Kensington
Why? The one I have from them is great. It cost around the same or a little less than an Apple one, but it is smaller (and more importantly, shaped so it fits much better in a laptop case), and has interchangeable tips, so that it can be used either on my PowerBook or my iPod.
In article 1gwgf03.1005xwmpawqewN%neillmassello@redacted.invalid, neillmassello@redacted.invalid (Neill Massello) wrote:
Steve Steve@redacted.invalid wrote:
You obviously don't want to buy the reliable, safe, more expensive Apple one
I would not call Apple's AC adapter reliable -- at least not if that means long-lasting. The DC cable and plug are fairly fragile. Apple's design is about the most compact and portable you can find, but it isn't the sturdiest.
Which is exactly why I have to replace it because the wires became exposed at the plug after only 1.5 years. Anyways, "Steve" didnt say to buy a Apple one, he said to buy it FROM APPLE, which is like $20 more than you can get the same thing from a third partywithout the sales tax.
In article 1115916080.659053.3590@redacted.invalid, "lewdvig" plongin@redacted.invalid wrote:
I am not an Apple sales person. I like the Apple brick. I am also looking to get one for my TiBook and the Apple one strikes me as best. I have not found any deals on Apple branded bricks other than the rip-offs on eBay.
As for going cheap - these things get hot. Heat results in failure. Failure results in my house burning down. I will spend the extra $20 and drink four fewer Stellas this week.
If you like the apple one better why dont you just buy it from a third party and get it for $20 less? Why pay MSRP PLUS shipping PLUS tax when you can get it for less than MSRP with no tax?
On Thu, 12 May 2005 15:19:45 -0400, Steve wrote:
You obviously don't want to buy the reliable, safe, more expensive Apple one, and if that is what you want, then do it.
- reliable: wrong
- safe: wrong
- more expensive: that's the only true item in you list.
Ho do you specify quality and reliability? You claim that there have been no adaptor problems before from Apple?
I've limited experience: my 190's is still ok. My 1400's broke - and was replaced by the 190's, reusing the 1400 plug. The iBook is still ok.
There's always little effort spend in order to minimize cable brakes by frequent usage. A simple two-side plug on the DC side is suited better for repairs and may applications.
The inner design is just as good or as bad as most of the others. In fact the current design might be different to others: I've never seen complaints about sparks on the AC side before when you plug in the brick. Does this mean especially high quality?
What makes Apple special is
the proprietary plug. Nice design, but not necessarily of real use. Others include the charge LED not within the plug, but within the notebook.
the design: It's different and many times better than an ordinary brick with one AC and one DC cable.
the price