coconutBattery

Anyone else tried this app?
Gareth Slee wrote on :

Anyone else tried this app? http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

Gareth

Roger Merriman replied on :

Gareth Slee ga.slee@redacted.invalid wrote:

Anyone else tried this app? http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

Gareth

no but its quite a nice looking thing, makes my battery sound helphia than it is, ie tends to sleep with no warning from 30% downwards normally nr 20%, still 30 months old and nr 900 cycles so not bad i guess?

Roger

Gareth Slee replied on :

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:50:15 +0100, Roger Merriman
NEWS@redacted.invalid wrote:

Gareth Slee ga.slee@redacted.invalid wrote:

Anyone else tried this app? http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

Gareth

no but its quite a nice looking thing, makes my battery sound helphia than it is, ie tends to sleep with no warning from 30% downwards normally nr 20%, still 30 months old and nr 900 cycles so not bad i guess?

Roger

It's got my battery at 95% capacity as compared to when it was new. Not
bad after 9 months use! 214 cycles, so still a long way to go to match yours Roger!

Gareth

Woody replied on :

Gareth Slee ga.slee@redacted.invalid wrote:

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:50:15 +0100, Roger Merriman
NEWS@redacted.invalid wrote:

Gareth Slee ga.slee@redacted.invalid wrote:

Anyone else tried this app? http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

Gareth

no but its quite a nice looking thing, makes my battery sound helphia than it is, ie tends to sleep with no warning from 30% downwards normally nr 20%, still 30 months old and nr 900 cycles so not bad i guess?

Roger

It's got my battery at 95% capacity as compared to when it was new. Not bad after 9 months use! 214 cycles, so still a long way to go to match yours Roger!

I am on 17 cycles now.

SteveH replied on :

Woody usenet@redacted.invalid wrote:

Gareth Slee ga.slee@redacted.invalid wrote:

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:50:15 +0100, Roger Merriman
NEWS@redacted.invalid wrote:

Gareth Slee ga.slee@redacted.invalid wrote:

Anyone else tried this app? http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

Gareth

no but its quite a nice looking thing, makes my battery sound helphia than it is, ie tends to sleep with no warning from 30% downwards normally nr 20%, still 30 months old and nr 900 cycles so not bad i guess?

Roger

It's got my battery at 95% capacity as compared to when it was new. Not bad after 9 months use! 214 cycles, so still a long way to go to match yours Roger!

I am on 17 cycles now.

7 cycles. Reports my battery as being 9 months old, which suggests this machine sat in a warehouse for a few months before I bought it.

Hugh Chaloner replied on :

Gareth Slee ga.slee@redacted.invalid wrote:

http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

My machine is 39 months old and has had 401 Battery_loadcycles. Seems a bit low since the machine is used in various locations daily.

Ryan Callaghan replied on :

SteveH steve@redacted.invalid wrote:

Woody usenet@redacted.invalid wrote:

Gareth Slee ga.slee@redacted.invalid wrote:

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:50:15 +0100, Roger Merriman
NEWS@redacted.invalid wrote:

Gareth Slee ga.slee@redacted.invalid wrote:

Anyone else tried this app? http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

Gareth

no but its quite a nice looking thing, makes my battery sound helphia than it is, ie tends to sleep with no warning from 30% downwards normally nr 20%, still 30 months old and nr 900 cycles so not bad i guess?

Roger

It's got my battery at 95% capacity as compared to when it was new. Not bad after 9 months use! 214 cycles, so still a long way to go to match yours Roger!

I am on 17 cycles now.

7 cycles. Reports my battery as being 9 months old, which suggests this machine sat in a warehouse for a few months before I bought it.

of the 3 batteries I own:

39 loadcycles, 100% - this battery was supposedly dead, not accepting charge at all, shorted the terminals to return it to a virgin state, and now performs admirably. this is from a 500MHz G3 iBook, not bad for a freebie. total capacity 4000mAh.

316 loadcycles, 86% - this one belongs with my iBook g3/800 should be 4200mAh.

302 loadcycles, 75% - out of an iBook G4/700, should be 4400mAh.

Interesting, the moral of this seems to be, don't chuck your old batteries if they appear dead, and also that intelligent batteries really aren't that intelligent (As I learned with an old 500 series PowerBook and some battery utilities, got one battery from about 2 minutes to a usable, (sorta) 45 on a good day with repeated resets and charge-discharge cycles, sadly the other had a shorted cell, that wasn't responsive to gentle dropping, and I didn't really want to try the charged bigass capacitor fix.)

Roger Merriman replied on :

Hugh Chaloner bounce.this@redacted.invalid wrote:

Gareth Slee ga.slee@redacted.invalid wrote:

http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

My machine is 39 months old and has had 401 Battery_loadcycles. Seems a bit low since the machine is used in various locations daily.

yup since my powerbook is 30months old and 884 battery cycles.

Roger Merriman replied on :

Gareth Slee ga.slee@redacted.invalid wrote:

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 19:50:15 +0100, Roger Merriman
NEWS@redacted.invalid wrote:

Gareth Slee ga.slee@redacted.invalid wrote:

Anyone else tried this app? http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

Gareth

no but its quite a nice looking thing, makes my battery sound helphia than it is, ie tends to sleep with no warning from 30% downwards normally nr 20%, still 30 months old and nr 900 cycles so not bad i guess?

Roger

It's got my battery at 95% capacity as compared to when it was new. Not bad after 9 months use! 214 cycles, so still a long way to go to match yours Roger!

Gareth

its holding at 82% capacity though most anoying is the lack of warning on forced sleep. i suspect due to its age and use that it will get worse untill it has to be replaced.

Roger

zoara replied on :

Ryan Callaghan UsenetsPam@redacted.invalid wrote:

this battery was supposedly dead, not accepting charge at all, shorted the terminals to return it to a virgin state, and now performs admirably.

Oooh, how please? I have a 'dead' battery that was killed by 10.3.1 or something like that. I think I still have it.

    -z-
Ryan Callaghan replied on :

zoara me3@redacted.invalid wrote:

Ryan Callaghan UsenetsPam@redacted.invalid wrote:

this battery was supposedly dead, not accepting charge at all, shorted the terminals to return it to a virgin state, and now performs admirably.

Oooh, how please? I have a 'dead' battery that was killed by 10.3.1 or something like that. I think I still have it.

Dead short for a second or so between the two outermost terminals, a staple is good for this as it's exactly the right width, and thin enough to poke into the slots, but a bit fiddly to handle.

Giles replied on :

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:43:01 +0100, Roger Merriman wrote:

Hugh Chaloner bounce.this@redacted.invalid wrote:

Gareth Slee ga.slee@redacted.invalid wrote:

http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

My machine is 39 months old and has had 401 Battery_loadcycles. Seems a bit low since the machine is used in various locations daily.

yup since my powerbook is 30months old and 884 battery cycles.

Hmm. 30 months and 408 cycles. The battery still has 74%, although it took a rundown and recharge cycle for that to show up accurately. But the 'book isn't carted out daily.

Giles

Roger Merriman replied on :

Giles usenet.giles@redacted.invalid wrote:

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:43:01 +0100, Roger Merriman wrote:

Hugh Chaloner bounce.this@redacted.invalid wrote:

Gareth Slee ga.slee@redacted.invalid wrote:

http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

My machine is 39 months old and has had 401 Battery_loadcycles. Seems a bit low since the machine is used in various locations daily.

yup since my powerbook is 30months old and 884 battery cycles.

Hmm. 30 months and 408 cycles. The battery still has 74%, although it took a rundown and recharge cycle for that to show up accurately. But the 'book isn't carted out daily.

Giles

mine is at 3446 mAH so its 82% i suspect that invertly as i clycle the battery quite often it does the battery good? though it looses charge over night and if its below 50% it will not wake the next mourning, and it tends to konk out at around 20% now. still it still lasts 2hrs ish so not bad i guess.

Roger

zoara replied on :

Ryan Callaghan UsenetsPam@redacted.invalid wrote:

zoara me3@redacted.invalid wrote:

Ryan Callaghan UsenetsPam@redacted.invalid wrote:

this battery was supposedly dead, not accepting charge at all, shorted the terminals to return it to a virgin state, and now performs admirably.

Oooh, how please? I have a 'dead' battery that was killed by 10.3.1 or something like that. I think I still have it.

Dead short for a second or so between the two outermost terminals, a staple is good for this as it's exactly the right width, and thin enough to poke into the slots, but a bit fiddly to handle.

Bingo. Will seek the battery out and jam a staple into it, see what happens. Will report back if I remember.

    -z-
Tim Auton replied on :

NEWS@redacted.invalid (Roger Merriman) wrote: [iBatteries]

mine is at 3446 mAH so its 82% i suspect that invertly as i clycle the battery quite often it does the battery good? though it looses charge over night and if its below 50% it will not wake the next mourning, and it tends to konk out at around 20% now. still it still lasts 2hrs ish so not bad i guess.

Mine was doing that till I reset the pram and nvram.

Tim

Peter Ceresole replied on :

Roger Merriman NEWS@redacted.invalid wrote:

mine is at 3446 mAH so its 82% i suspect that invertly as i clycle the battery quite often it does the battery good?

I don't think so. Lithium batteries are limited in the number of cycles they can do- it's one of the things that eventually kills them.

Roger Merriman replied on :

Peter Ceresole peter@redacted.invalid wrote:

Roger Merriman NEWS@redacted.invalid wrote:

mine is at 3446 mAH so its 82% i suspect that invertly as i clycle the battery quite often it does the battery good?

I don't think so. Lithium batteries are limited in the number of cycles they can do- it's one of the things that eventually kills them.

as will age. if a battery sits on a shelf under use will cause it to degrade. in other words the battery will die it just depends when.

al book batties seem to get more tempermenal with age than the tit books ones. why this is so i don't know.

Roger

Roger Merriman replied on :

Tim Auton tim.auton@redacted.invalid wrote:

NEWS@redacted.invalid (Roger Merriman) wrote: [iBatteries]

mine is at 3446 mAH so its 82% i suspect that invertly as i clycle the battery quite often it does the battery good? though it looses charge over night and if its below 50% it will not wake the next mourning, and it tends to konk out at around 20% now. still it still lasts 2hrs ish so not bad i guess.

Mine was doing that till I reset the pram and nvram.

Tim

been done to no aviel. that used to work but not any more.

the battery is just well used.

Roger

PeterD replied on :

Peter Ceresole peter@redacted.invalid wrote:

Roger Merriman NEWS@redacted.invalid wrote:

mine is at 3446 mAH so its 82% i suspect that invertly as i clycle the battery quite often it does the battery good?

I don't think so. Lithium batteries are limited in the number of cycles they can do- it's one of the things that eventually kills them.

Finally downloaded the thing on to my old TiBook, which is running Tiger just for fun: Age of your Mac: 56 Months Current capacity: 2617 mAh (72%) Original capacity: 3600 mAh

Not bad at all - fits with my 3+ hours battery time.

D.M. Procida replied on :

zoara me3@redacted.invalid wrote:

Dead short for a second or so between the two outermost terminals, a staple is good for this as it's exactly the right width, and thin enough to poke into the slots, but a bit fiddly to handle.

Bingo. Will seek the battery out and jam a staple into it, see what happens. Will report back if I remember.

If you live.

Daniele

zoara replied on :

D.M. Procida real-not-anti-spam-address@redacted.invalid wrote:

zoara me3@redacted.invalid wrote:

Dead short for a second or so between the two outermost terminals, a staple is good for this as it's exactly the right width, and thin enough to poke into the slots, but a bit fiddly to handle.

Bingo. Will seek the battery out and jam a staple into it, see what happens. Will report back if I remember.

If you live.

I'll do it with my teeth, just to add to the thrill.

Can't find the damn battery anyway.

    -z-
A. Peter Hayes replied on :

Giles wrote:

On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:43:01 +0100, Roger Merriman wrote:

Hugh Chaloner bounce.this@redacted.invalid wrote:

Gareth Slee ga.slee@redacted.invalid wrote:

http://www.coconut-flavour.com/coconutbattery/index.html

My machine is 39 months old and has had 401 Battery_loadcycles. Seems a bit low since the machine is used in various locations daily.

yup since my powerbook is 30months old and 884 battery cycles.

Hmm. 30 months and 408 cycles. The battery still has 74%, although it took a rundown and recharge cycle for that to show up accurately. But the 'book isn't carted out daily.

Giles

Interesting, or spooky, I just got back from buying a new battery, as the original one is not lasting as long as it did, to find this thread. Old battery shows as originally 4200 mAh now down to 2950 after 204 load cycles. I wonder if it has to be totally run down to count as a cycle? I've had the original battery for 30+ months of daily usage; mainly online via the airport, mix of battery and mains so it got a lot of small top-ups. The new battery shows as 4400 mAh but it's not had a complete rundown/charge cycle yet. Expensive things batteries, 120 USD for a PB 12", more than for newer/larger PBs. I hope it was cheaper than back home, easier to find a store anyway. There are 2 stores in Minneapolis where I am this week. The Mall of America store has relegated computers to the back corner, the iPod's dominate the front. The Southdale Center store is still mainly computers and all the bits you want are on the shelves, no need for 'do you have a ....?', so they got my business.

Pete H