Safe Sleep mode

The new Powerbooks have a kind-of-hibernate support
zoaran substitute wrote on :

Oooh.

The new Powerbooks have a kind-of-hibernate support:

http://www.google.com/search?q=powerbook+safe+sleep http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302477

-zs-
Steve replied on :

On 2/11/05 09:17, in article 1130923039.064736.299260@redacted.invalid, "zoaran substitute" nettid1@redacted.invalid wrote:

Oooh.

The new Powerbooks have a kind-of-hibernate support:

http://www.google.com/search?q=powerbook+safe+sleep http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302477

-zs-

They kept that one quiet!

Perhaps because it was something everyone thought they should have had for ages, but they've only just got round to adding that feature?!

Tim Auton replied on :

Steve root@redacted.invalid wrote:

On 2/11/05 09:17, in article 1130923039.064736.299260@redacted.invalid, "zoaran substitute" nettid1@redacted.invalid wrote:

The new Powerbooks have a kind-of-hibernate support:

http://www.google.com/search?q=powerbook+safe+sleep http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302477

They kept that one quiet!

Perhaps because it was something everyone thought they should have had for ages, but they've only just got round to adding that feature?!

It is nice that they've caught up with Windows circa 2000 :) I'm curious as to why it's machine-specific though. Why can't we all have hibernate?

Tim

Chris Ridd replied on :

On 2/11/05 8:14, in article ha7im1p7ba9labkbgo9ierb5olq18jp6c0@redacted.invalid, "Tim Auton" tim.auton@redacted.invalid wrote:

Steve root@redacted.invalid wrote:

On 2/11/05 09:17, in article 1130923039.064736.299260@redacted.invalid, "zoaran substitute" nettid1@redacted.invalid wrote:

The new Powerbooks have a kind-of-hibernate support:

http://www.google.com/search?q=powerbook+safe+sleep http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302477

They kept that one quiet!

Perhaps because it was something everyone thought they should have had for ages, but they've only just got round to adding that feature?!

It is nice that they've caught up with Windows circa 2000 :) I'm curious as to why it's machine-specific though. Why can't we all have hibernate?

I used it on a Dell once, but only because sleep wouldn't work. It doesn't seem like a desperately essential feature given that sleep works very well on OS X.

Cheers,

Chris

Bonge Boo! replied on :

On 2/11/05 20:14, in article ha7im1p7ba9labkbgo9ierb5olq18jp6c0@redacted.invalid, "Tim Auton" tim.auton@redacted.invalid wrote:

The new Powerbooks have a kind-of-hibernate support:

http://www.google.com/search?q=powerbook+safe+sleep http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302477

They kept that one quiet!

Perhaps because it was something everyone thought they should have had for ages, but they've only just got round to adding that feature?!

It is nice that they've caught up with Windows circa 2000 :) I'm curious as to why it's machine-specific though. Why can't we all have hibernate?

Probably because they are testing it on a smallish number of people.

OS 9 was intended to have hibernation support. They pulled it very quickly as it was crap.

Steve replied on :

On 2/11/05 20:25, in article BF8ED142.11757D%chrisridd@redacted.invalid, "Chris Ridd" chrisridd@redacted.invalid wrote:

I used it on a Dell once, but only because sleep wouldn't work. It doesn't seem like a desperately essential feature given that sleep works very well on OS X.

Until you suffer a power failure...

Woody replied on :

Chris Ridd chrisridd@redacted.invalid wrote:

On 2/11/05 8:14, in article ha7im1p7ba9labkbgo9ierb5olq18jp6c0@redacted.invalid, "Tim Auton" tim.auton@redacted.invalid wrote:

Steve root@redacted.invalid wrote:

On 2/11/05 09:17, in article 1130923039.064736.299260@redacted.invalid, "zoaran substitute" nettid1@redacted.invalid wrote:

The new Powerbooks have a kind-of-hibernate support:

http://www.google.com/search?q=powerbook+safe+sleep http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302477

They kept that one quiet!

Perhaps because it was something everyone thought they should have had for ages, but they've only just got round to adding that feature?!

It is nice that they've caught up with Windows circa 2000 :) I'm curious as to why it's machine-specific though. Why can't we all have hibernate?

I used it on a Dell once, but only because sleep wouldn't work. It doesn't seem like a desperately essential feature given that sleep works very well on OS X.

I have been waiting for hibernate for ages. Yes, sleep works better than it does on windows, but that doesn't mean that hibernate should have been left out

zoara replied on :

Chris Ridd chrisridd@redacted.invalid wrote:

On 2/11/05 8:14, in article ha7im1p7ba9labkbgo9ierb5olq18jp6c0@redacted.invalid, "Tim Auton" tim.auton@redacted.invalid wrote:

Steve root@redacted.invalid wrote:

Perhaps because it was something everyone thought they should have had for ages, but they've only just got round to adding that feature?!

It is nice that they've caught up with Windows circa 2000 :)

Yeah, I thought that, too. But it's by Apple, so of course it's infinitely better.

I'm curious as to why it's machine-specific though. Why can't we all have hibernate?

"Buy our new machines..."

I used it on a Dell once, but only because sleep wouldn't work. It doesn't seem like a desperately essential feature given that sleep works very well on OS X.

Battery life isn't infinite?

It's not like Windows in that you choose hibernate or sleep. It always suspends to disk, but if the battery stays charged, when it wakes up it discards that suspend info and wakes - instantly - from RAM, as normal. But if the battery runs out of charge, it will (when recharged) use the suspend info to wake from hibernate.

So you can use the laptop right up to the "I'm gonna sleep now!" warning, without having to reserve any because it might be several hours/days before you next get power. No need to worry about losing power.

It's a safety net.

    -z-
Woody replied on :

zoara me3@redacted.invalid wrote:

It's not like Windows in that you choose hibernate or sleep. It always suspends to disk, but if the battery stays charged, when it wakes up it discards that suspend info and wakes - instantly - from RAM, as normal. But if the battery runs out of charge, it will (when recharged) use the suspend info to wake from hibernate.

So you can use the laptop right up to the "I'm gonna sleep now!" warning, without having to reserve any because it might be several hours/days before you next get power. No need to worry about losing power.

Bugger - I thought it was a choice.

Chris Ridd replied on :

On 2/11/05 10:18, in article 1h5f6rt.1gl97puro264gN%usenet@redacted.invalid, "Woody" usenet@redacted.invalid wrote:

Chris Ridd chrisridd@redacted.invalid wrote:

I used it on a Dell once, but only because sleep wouldn't work. It doesn't seem like a desperately essential feature given that sleep works very well on OS X.

I have been waiting for hibernate for ages. Yes, sleep works better than it does on windows, but that doesn't mean that hibernate should have been left out

No, but as a feature it doesn't feel particularly essential.

Cheers,

Chris

Woody replied on :

Chris Ridd chrisridd@redacted.invalid wrote:

On 2/11/05 10:18, in article 1h5f6rt.1gl97puro264gN%usenet@redacted.invalid, "Woody" usenet@redacted.invalid wrote:

Chris Ridd chrisridd@redacted.invalid wrote:

I used it on a Dell once, but only because sleep wouldn't work. It doesn't seem like a desperately essential feature given that sleep works very well on OS X.

I have been waiting for hibernate for ages. Yes, sleep works better than it does on windows, but that doesn't mean that hibernate should have been left out

No, but as a feature it doesn't feel particularly essential.

Always annoyed me - although if it isn't selectable then it probably isn't worth having anyway.

zoara replied on :

Woody usenet@redacted.invalid wrote:

zoara me3@redacted.invalid wrote:

It's not like Windows in that you choose hibernate or sleep. It always suspends to disk, but if the battery stays charged, when it wakes up it discards that suspend info and wakes - instantly - from RAM, as normal. But if the battery runs out of charge, it will (when recharged) use the suspend info to wake from hibernate.

So you can use the laptop right up to the "I'm gonna sleep now!" warning, without having to reserve any because it might be several hours/days before you next get power. No need to worry about losing power.

Bugger - I thought it was a choice.

I'm sure third parties will step in.

    -z-