In article jollyroger-C56B3F.13041525122008@redacted.invalid, Jolly Roger jollyroger@redacted.invalid wrote:
In article arkayREMOVE-07FF44.09281225122008@redacted.invalid, aRKay arkayREMOVE@redacted.invalid wrote:
In article jollyroger-897027.12193724122008@redacted.invalid, Jolly Roger jollyroger@redacted.invalid wrote:
Well if it's any help, I let SuperDuper back up my entire startup volume on my Mac Pro last night, and then first thing this morning applied the combo update. Everything seems to have gone without a hitch so far.
I'll evaluate the machine during the next day or two to make sure everything is in working order, and will make a decision about whether I want to roll out the update to the other machines I manage.
The test of good install is to see if you can do a Time Machine update.
If it works, you are good to goI don't use Time Machine on this machine, so...
The TM was the big glitch from the 10.5.6 Combo. You might try to see if you can recover from SLEEP or boot okay after a SHUT DOWN. If you pass these two tests, you have a good install and are good to go.
In article arkayREMOVE-576BDD.10075226122008@redacted.invalid, aRKay arkayREMOVE@redacted.invalid wrote:
In article jollyroger-C56B3F.13041525122008@redacted.invalid, Jolly Roger jollyroger@redacted.invalid wrote:
In article arkayREMOVE-07FF44.09281225122008@redacted.invalid, aRKay arkayREMOVE@redacted.invalid wrote:
In article jollyroger-897027.12193724122008@redacted.invalid, Jolly Roger jollyroger@redacted.invalid wrote:
Well if it's any help, I let SuperDuper back up my entire startup volume on my Mac Pro last night, and then first thing this morning applied the combo update. Everything seems to have gone without a hitch so far.
I'll evaluate the machine during the next day or two to make sure everything is in working order, and will make a decision about whether I want to roll out the update to the other machines I manage.
The test of good install is to see if you can do a Time Machine update.
If it works, you are good to goI don't use Time Machine on this machine, so...
The TM was the big glitch from the 10.5.6 Combo. You might try to see if you can recover from SLEEP or boot okay after a SHUT DOWN. If you pass these two tests, you have a good install and are good to go.
By that measure, all is well. I'm also evaluating whether various applications work correctly, and so on.
In article jollyroger-21A471.13020126122008@redacted.invalid, Jolly Roger jollyroger@redacted.invalid wrote:
The TM was the big glitch from the 10.5.6 Combo. You might try to see if you can recover from SLEEP or boot okay after a SHUT DOWN. If you pass these two tests, you have a good install and are good to go.
By that measure, all is well. I'm also evaluating whether various applications work correctly, and so on.
Glad to hear you dodged the nasty 10.5.6 install mess. Mine still acks weird waking from sleep. Seems to go into a coma and it takes a formal restart to rejoin the living.
I had no sleep or startup issues prior to 10.5.6
In article arkayREMOVE-52E58A.18190926122008@redacted.invalid, aRKay arkayREMOVE@redacted.invalid wrote:
In article jollyroger-21A471.13020126122008@redacted.invalid, Jolly Roger jollyroger@redacted.invalid wrote:
The TM was the big glitch from the 10.5.6 Combo. You might try to see if you can recover from SLEEP or boot okay after a SHUT DOWN. If you pass these two tests, you have a good install and are good to go.
By that measure, all is well. I'm also evaluating whether various applications work correctly, and so on.
Glad to hear you dodged the nasty 10.5.6 install mess. Mine still acks weird waking from sleep. Seems to go into a coma and it takes a formal restart to rejoin the living.
I had no sleep or startup issues prior to 10.5.6
Does the same thing happen with all external USB and Firewire devices disconnected?
In article C5796703.2999E%nicknaym@redacted.invalid[remove_this].gmail.com, Nick Naym at nicknaym@redacted.invalid[remove_this].gmail.com wrote on 12/25/08 4:36 PM:
In article arkayREMOVE-07FF44.09281225122008@redacted.invalid, aRKay at arkayREMOVE@redacted.invalid wrote on 12/25/08 10:28 AM:
In article jollyroger-897027.12193724122008@redacted.invalid, Jolly Roger jollyroger@redacted.invalid wrote:
Well if it's any help, I let SuperDuper back up my entire startup volume on my Mac Pro last night, and then first thing this morning applied the combo update. Everything seems to have gone without a hitch so far.
I'll evaluate the machine during the next day or two to make sure everything is in working order, and will make a decision about whether I want to roll out the update to the other machines I manage.
The test of good install is to see if you can do a Time Machine update. If it works, you are good to go
Seems like a reasonable statement. But what is so "special" about the process that TM uses to make its backups that enables one to use its performance as a "litmus test" for OS updates?
I still would like to know the answer to my above "what's so special" question.
Though not directly related to all of the problems folks seem to be having, this may be of some interest: http://tinyurl.com/7ruuyy,
In article jollyroger-37DC4B.18291226122008@redacted.invalid, Jolly Roger jollyroger@redacted.invalid wrote:
In article arkayREMOVE-52E58A.18190926122008@redacted.invalid, aRKay arkayREMOVE@redacted.invalid wrote:
In article jollyroger-21A471.13020126122008@redacted.invalid, Jolly Roger jollyroger@redacted.invalid wrote:
The TM was the big glitch from the 10.5.6 Combo. You might try to see if you can recover from SLEEP or boot okay after a SHUT DOWN. If you pass these two tests, you have a good install and are good to go.
By that measure, all is well. I'm also evaluating whether various applications work correctly, and so on.
Glad to hear you dodged the nasty 10.5.6 install mess. Mine still acks weird waking from sleep. Seems to go into a coma and it takes a formal restart to rejoin the living.
I had no sleep or startup issues prior to 10.5.6
Does the same thing happen with all external USB and Firewire devices disconnected?
I disconnected everything before the last reset/restart (this afternoon) but connected everything once I got it running.
I just put it to sleep and got it to wake up. It is working now but before shut down tonight I will disconnect the Firewire and USB external drives that are kept unmounted until needed. I will leave the keyboard/mouse USB connection in place and see what happen on START in the morning.
In article arkayREMOVE-A2ED73.19310826122008@redacted.invalid, aRKay arkayREMOVE@redacted.invalid wrote:
In article jollyroger-37DC4B.18291226122008@redacted.invalid, Jolly Roger jollyroger@redacted.invalid wrote:
In article arkayREMOVE-52E58A.18190926122008@redacted.invalid, aRKay arkayREMOVE@redacted.invalid wrote:
In article jollyroger-21A471.13020126122008@redacted.invalid, Jolly Roger jollyroger@redacted.invalid wrote:
The TM was the big glitch from the 10.5.6 Combo. You might try to see if you can recover from SLEEP or boot okay after a SHUT DOWN. If you pass these two tests, you have a good install and are good to go.
By that measure, all is well. I'm also evaluating whether various applications work correctly, and so on.
Glad to hear you dodged the nasty 10.5.6 install mess. Mine still acks weird waking from sleep. Seems to go into a coma and it takes a formal restart to rejoin the living.
I had no sleep or startup issues prior to 10.5.6
Does the same thing happen with all external USB and Firewire devices disconnected?
I disconnected everything before the last reset/restart (this afternoon) but connected everything once I got it running.
I just put it to sleep and got it to wake up. It is working now but before shut down tonight I will disconnect the Firewire and USB external drives that are kept unmounted until needed. I will leave the keyboard/mouse USB connection in place and see what happen on START in the morning.
Everything seems normal/normal now. It woke from being Shut Down without a hang on the white crank page. Boot was normal. I just put it to sleep while making coffee and it work up with no issues.
Looks like I finally have a good 10.5.6 install working.
Now running both the Time Machine and SuperDuper to get good backup baseline.
In article 1isgp2l.1e5s5ye19akp2wN%jamiekg@redacted.invalid, Jamie Kahn Genet jamiekg@redacted.invalid wrote:
Jim Gibson jimsgibson@redacted.invalid wrote:
I had to do an Archive and Install after the 10.5.5 upgrade hosed my computer. After the A&I that took me back to 10.5.1 and a lot of software upgrades to get back to 10.5.5 my system was OK. The only problem I encountered was that I lost a certificate for the Microsoft Exchange server we use here at work. I could probably figure out how to fix that by calling IT support, but in the meantime Entourage still works; I just have to click on an OK button in a dialog asking me to accept the site once a day.
If you expand that warning you'll see you've the chance to "always accept", assuming it's the standard OSX certificate warning you're seeing.
Thanks for the advice. It is an Entourage dialog box that appears when I first start Entourage. Fortunately, an e-mail today about changing my password also contained instructions on installing a root certificate. I was able to download the certificate file from a URL, open the Keychain Access application, and drag the downloaded certificate file to the System keychain. Entourage no longer complains when I start it, so problem solved!
Jim Gibson jimsgibson@redacted.invalid wrote:
In article 1isgp2l.1e5s5ye19akp2wN%jamiekg@redacted.invalid, Jamie Kahn Genet jamiekg@redacted.invalid wrote:
Jim Gibson jimsgibson@redacted.invalid wrote:
I had to do an Archive and Install after the 10.5.5 upgrade hosed my computer. After the A&I that took me back to 10.5.1 and a lot of software upgrades to get back to 10.5.5 my system was OK. The only problem I encountered was that I lost a certificate for the Microsoft Exchange server we use here at work. I could probably figure out how to fix that by calling IT support, but in the meantime Entourage still works; I just have to click on an OK button in a dialog asking me to accept the site once a day.
If you expand that warning you'll see you've the chance to "always accept", assuming it's the standard OSX certificate warning you're seeing.
Thanks for the advice. It is an Entourage dialog box that appears when I first start Entourage. Fortunately, an e-mail today about changing my password also contained instructions on installing a root certificate. I was able to download the certificate file from a URL, open the Keychain Access application, and drag the downloaded certificate file to the System keychain. Entourage no longer complains when I start it, so problem solved!
Glad to hear it's resolved :-)