G3 Powerbook w/ OS X won't wake from sleep

Steven R. Hall wrote on 2 January 2002:

I have a G3 Powerbook (Bronze) with OS X installed, that has developed a nasty habit of failing to wake from sleeping. Here are the symptoms:

From sleep mode, pressing a key to wake causes the blinking green light to stop blinking, but the screen never wakes up. The computer seems to have shut down completely, except that the keyboard appears to be up. When the "caps lock" or "num lock" key is pressed, the corresponding LED lights up. Other than that, nothing --- I have to reboot to get it back.

The problem is intermittant; it happens only on some sleep events, and then usually the longer ones, but is not reproducible (at least that I can determine).

Any thoughts?

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Tom Bridgman replied on 4 January 2002:

Do you have any USB devices attached? This is a known problem with 10.1 and apparently still exists for 10.1.2, probably related to USB power management in sleep mode. There's several threads on the topic in the Apple discussion lists.

I usually disconnect my trackball if I know I'm going to be away from my laptop long enough for it to go to sleep. Yeah, it's a pain.

Tom

On Wed, 2 Jan 2002 10:42:15 -0500, Steven R. Hall wrote (in message srhall-ya02408000R0201021042150001@redacted.invalid):

I have a G3 Powerbook (Bronze) with OS X installed, that has developed a nasty habit of failing to wake from sleeping. Here are the symptoms:
From sleep mode, pressing a key to wake causes the blinking green light to stop blinking, but the screen never wakes up. The computer seems to have shut down completely, except that the keyboard appears to be up. When the "caps lock" or "num lock" key is pressed, the corresponding LED lights up. Other than that, nothing --- I have to reboot to get it back.
The problem is intermittant; it happens only on some sleep events, and then usually the longer ones, but is not reproducible (at least that I can determine).
Any thoughts?
To e-mail me, remove the dot.

matt neuburg replied on 4 January 2002:

In article srhall-ya02408000R0201021042150001@redacted.invalid, srhall@redacted.invalid (Steven R. Hall) wrote:

I have a G3 Powerbook (Bronze) with OS X installed, that has developed a nasty habit of failing to wake from sleeping. Here are the symptoms:
From sleep mode, pressing a key to wake causes the blinking green light to stop blinking, but the screen never wakes up. The computer seems to have shut down completely, except that the keyboard appears to be up. When the "caps lock" or "num lock" key is pressed, the corresponding LED lights up. Other than that, nothing --- I have to reboot to get it back.

This happens to me if there's a PC card (or whatever they are called) in the slot. If you have any extra hardware attached to your computer I'd suggest that that's the cause. m.

Lee Phillips replied on 5 January 2002:

I'm running 10.1 on the Lombard (G3 Powerbook (Bronze)) and sleep is one of the things that I've had really good luck with - wakes up quickly without crashing, and with a wireless network card in the PC slot. Sorry I can't help further, but I thought you could use a datapoint.

Jeff Wechter replied on 6 January 2002:

In article
matt-0401022039160001@redacted.invalid,
matt@redacted.invalid (matt neuburg) wrote:

In article srhall-ya02408000R0201021042150001@redacted.invalid, srhall@redacted.invalid (Steven R. Hall) wrote:
I have a G3 Powerbook (Bronze) with OS X installed, that has developed a nasty habit of failing to wake from sleeping. Here are the symptoms:
From sleep mode, pressing a key to wake causes the blinking green light to stop blinking, but the screen never wakes up. The computer seems to have shut down completely, except that the keyboard appears to be up. When the "caps lock" or "num lock" key is pressed, the corresponding LED lights up. Other than that, nothing --- I have to reboot to get it back.
This happens to me if there's a PC card (or whatever they are called) in the slot. If you have any extra hardware attached to your computer I'd suggest that that's the cause. m.

Aaaaah. I use a Firewire PC card and an ADB mouse lately and have the same intermittent misbehavior.

If these HW extras are causing the problem, what's the solution? Shut down instead of sleep? Wait for the OS update? Live with it?

The biggest stinker for me is the forced restart has hosed a couple Mailsmith mailboxes. But otherwise, no noticeable harm. I've really warmed up to OSX. 8-)

Jeff Wechter replied on 8 January 2002:

In article jeferey-0C2B08.10153606012002@redacted.invalid, Jeff Wechter jeferey@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article
matt-0401022039160001@redacted.invalid,
matt@redacted.invalid (matt neuburg) wrote:
In article srhall-ya02408000R0201021042150001@redacted.invalid, srhall@redacted.invalid (Steven R. Hall) wrote:
I have a G3 Powerbook (Bronze) with OS X installed, that has developed a nasty habit of failing to wake from sleeping. Here are the symptoms:
From sleep mode, pressing a key to wake causes the blinking green light to stop blinking, but the screen never wakes up. The computer seems to have shut down completely, except that the keyboard appears to be up. When the "caps lock" or "num lock" key is pressed, the corresponding LED lights up. Other than that, nothing --- I have to reboot to get it back.
This happens to me if there's a PC card (or whatever they are called) in the slot. If you have any extra hardware attached to your computer I'd suggest that that's the cause. m.
Aaaaah. I use a Firewire PC card and an ADB mouse lately and have the same intermittent misbehavior.
If these HW extras are causing the problem, what's the solution? Shut down instead of sleep? Wait for the OS update? Live with it?
The biggest stinker for me is the forced restart has hosed a couple Mailsmith mailboxes. But otherwise, no noticeable harm. I've really warmed up to OSX. 8-)

As a test today I shut down and disconnected everything. Later after booting it up (on battery power). I eventually got the lack of waking up thing. So it seems extra hardware is not the cause in my case.