Powerbook G4 Sleeps When I Close the Lid

Just because I've closed the lid, doesn't mean I want to stop the big download I'm doing or whatever.
Fred Finisterre wrote on :

How can I stop this?

Just because I've closed the lid, doesn't mean I want to stop the big download I'm doing or whatever. it just means I want to stop it getting full of dust.

Cheers,

Fred.

Ian Gregory replied on :

Fred Finisterre wrote:

How can I stop this?

Just because I've closed the lid, doesn't mean I want to stop the big download I'm doing or whatever. it just means I want to stop it getting full of dust.

But do you also want it to melt:-) Apparently there is some sort of heat issue when the lid is shut (damaging LCD or just plain overheating).

However, if you know what you are doing then there is some sort of hack to disable this protective feature. I remember someone walking around scanning for wireless networks using an iBook running Yellow Dog Linux - he had disabled sleep on close. Incidentally, the reason he was running Linux is that the Mac OS X wireless drivers were not capable of putting the card into promiscuous mode.

Anyway, if you really want to do it I think is might require a firmware hack.

Cathy Stevenson replied on :

In article cpprcf$986$1@redacted.invalid, Fred Finisterre finisterre@redacted.invalid wrote:

How can I stop this?

Just because I've closed the lid, doesn't mean I want to stop the big download I'm doing or whatever. it just means I want to stop it getting full of dust.

You may not want the PB to be closed when the hard drive is spinning - I would expect that more heat would be generated and that this might damage the PB.

I suppose you tried the energy prefs - may or may not work, but it is the obvious pref to select.

Cathy

Richard Kaszeta replied on :

Ian Gregory foo@redacted.invalid writes:

But do you also want it to melt:-) Apparently there is some sort of heat issue when the lid is shut (damaging LCD or just plain overheating).

On most Powerbooks (my 1 GHz Tibook, for sure), if you hook up a USB keyboard and mouse and close the lid, you can re-awaken it with the external keyboard, and it will stay running with the lid closed.

If you do this, make sure the Tibook is sitting on something like a stand so that air can circulate under it, else it gets uncomfortably hot and isn't very good for it.

Richard Kaszeta replied on :

Richard Kaszeta rich@redacted.invalid writes:

Ian Gregory foo@redacted.invalid writes:

But do you also want it to melt:-) Apparently there is some sort of heat issue when the lid is shut (damaging LCD or just plain overheating).

On most Powerbooks (my 1 GHz Tibook, for sure), if you hook up a USB keyboard and mouse and close the lid, you can re-awaken it with the external keyboard, and it will stay running with the lid closed.

Oh, and an external monitor as well.

Scott Ellsworth replied on :

In article 151220041010337807%cats1921@redacted.invalid, Cathy Stevenson cats1921@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article cpprcf$986$1@redacted.invalid, Fred Finisterre finisterre@redacted.invalid wrote:

How can I stop this?

Just because I've closed the lid, doesn't mean I want to stop the big download I'm doing or whatever. it just means I want to stop it getting full of dust.

You may not want the PB to be closed when the hard drive is spinning - I would expect that more heat would be generated and that this might damage the PB.

It is actually quite acceptable to run a powerbook in lid closed (clamshell) mode. This is fully supported by the OS, and the docs that came with (at least my) Powerbook.

You need to have an external display, power, and a USB mouse hooked up.

Alternatively, you can try the "Sleepless" program. It worked off and on on my TiBook/667.

Scott

M-M replied on :

In article cpprcf$986$1@redacted.invalid, "Fred Finisterre" finisterre@redacted.invalid wrote:

Just because I've closed the lid, doesn't mean I want to stop the big download I'm doing or whatever. it just means I want to stop it getting full of dust.

This has to be one of the dummest posts I've seen for a while.

Bev A. Kupf replied on :

On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 02:56:23 GMT, M-M (nospam@redacted.invalid) wrote:

In article cpprcf$986$1@redacted.invalid, "Fred Finisterre" finisterre@redacted.invalid wrote:

Just because I've closed the lid, doesn't mean I want to stop the big download I'm doing or whatever. it just means I want to stop it getting full of dust.

This has to be one of the dummest posts I've seen for a while. ^^^^^^^

Nice touch of irony there.

M-M replied on :

In article slrncs1vc8.25r.bevakupf@redacted.invalid, "Bev A. Kupf" bevakupf@redacted.invalid wrote:

This has to be one of the dummest posts I've seen for a while. ^^^^^^^

Nice touch of irony there.

Thanks. It just came out naturally :)

Fred Finisterre replied on :

This has to be one of the dummest posts I've seen for a while.

Dumb how? I'm new to Macs having had plenty of PCs including laptops which'll run happily with their lids shut. Say I wanted to run a webserver on the machine, and not use it for anything else - seems pretty dumb that I'd have to leave the lid open permanently so the PB can get full of dirt and coffee.

Still it's nice to know the Mac community is sooo friendly!

fred.

poopdeville replied on :

Running a webserver on a laptop for any non-negligible length of time is just stupid. Why spend $300 more for slower hardware if you aren't going to use its best feature (portability)? If you really need a smaller form factor, you could have gotten a G5 for less than the price of a 15 inch PowerBook. Unless you got a good deal on a use laptop, this idea is worthy of ridicule.

To be fair, I have wished for this lid closing functionality before, especially in my BitTorrent days.

'cid 'ooh

Scooby replied on :

Geee whiz poopdeville, good thing you tossed in the "To be fair" paragraph, 'cause without it only the asshole part of you would be showing. And that's certainly a part that's not even worthy of ridicule.

In article 1103173510.858738.298750@redacted.invalid, poopdeville@redacted.invalid wrote:

Running a webserver on a laptop for any non-negligible length of time is just stupid. Why spend $300 more for slower hardware if you aren't going to use its best feature (portability)? If you really need a smaller form factor, you could have gotten a G5 for less than the price of a 15 inch PowerBook. Unless you got a good deal on a use laptop, this idea is worthy of ridicule.

To be fair, I have wished for this lid closing functionality before, especially in my BitTorrent days.

'cid 'ooh

poopdeville replied on :
So you don't think wasting resources is stupid? Well, call me an asshole then. That's just how much your opinion matters to me. 'cid 'ooh
Tom Stiller replied on :

In article 1103173510.858738.298750@redacted.invalid, poopdeville@redacted.invalid wrote:

Running a webserver on a laptop for any non-negligible length of time is just stupid. Why spend $300 more for slower hardware if you aren't going to use its best feature (portability)? If you really need a smaller form factor, you could have gotten a G5 for less than the price of a 15 inch PowerBook. Unless you got a good deal on a use laptop, this idea is worthy of ridicule.

Portability may be the best feature of a laptop but there's much to be said for its built in UPS as regards a server.

To be fair, I have wished for this lid closing functionality before, especially in my BitTorrent days.

'cid 'ooh

poopdeville replied on :

That's a good point, but I've heard of issues regarding batteries dying after being plugged in for just a few months.

'cid 'ooh

Scott Ellsworth replied on :

In article 1103173510.858738.298750@redacted.invalid, poopdeville@redacted.invalid wrote:

Running a webserver on a laptop for any non-negligible length of time is just stupid. Why spend $300 more for slower hardware if you aren't going to use its best feature (portability)?

Because you have one? Because even accelerated depreciation on computer equipment still leaves it having a value higher that the Special EBay Price after two years? Further, spending several hours to buy and configure the replacement new machine would eat up any possible benefit in buying a new machine.

This exact argument is why my old TiBook/667 is used to record NPR every few days, even though an iMac G5 would be a better platform in all respects save me already having one.

'Taint stupid to use the resources you have, especially if they are already configured correctly, when the alternative is to spend more time and money for a platform that may be theoretically better, but that is likely the same in practice.

Scott