sleep in 10.7

William Hanna wrote on :

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Suze replied on :

In article 300720110829581157%whanna@redacted.invalid, William Hanna whanna@redacted.invalid wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Did you check the energy saver prefs?

heron stone replied on :

In article replytome-050986.15565730072011@redacted.invalid, Suze replytome@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article 300720110829581157%whanna@redacted.invalid, William Hanna whanna@redacted.invalid wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Did you check the energy saver prefs?

there's nothing there that relates to this issue

Izak van Langevelde replied on :

In article 300720110829581157%whanna@redacted.invalid, William Hanna whanna@redacted.invalid wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

Paul Sture replied on :

In article eezacque-856320.19381630072011@redacted.invalid, Izak van Langevelde eezacque@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article 300720110829581157%whanna@redacted.invalid, William Hanna whanna@redacted.invalid wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

I think it should be an option. When I was still using my iBook I could close it with an external monitor attached and it would automatically switch to using that monitor instead of the laptop display.

heron stone replied on :

In article eezacque-856320.19381630072011@redacted.invalid, Izak van Langevelde eezacque@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article 300720110829581157%whanna@redacted.invalid, William Hanna whanna@redacted.invalid wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

yes, i called apple support and he verified that the system changed with Lion. Closing the lid without an ext. monitor will put it to sleep, but with an ext. monitor attached, it doesn't.

i, too, consider this a bug... but they did it on purpose... duh!

Richard Maine replied on :

Paul Sture paul.nospam@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article eezacque-856320.19381630072011@redacted.invalid, Izak van Langevelde eezacque@redacted.invalid wrote:

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

I think it should be an option.

This at least used to be a quite intentional feature of the MBP, one that plenty of people (including myself) used. Well, I suppose it was in the pre-Intel days that I was using it, so I suppose that would have been a powerbook, but same idea.

I only used the built-in screen when travelling with the laptop. When using it at my desk, I hooked it to a much larger monitor, an external keyboard, and a mouse. It was then my desktop machine. I wasn't allowed to have separate computers for desk and travel use, but I could have the laptop plus accessories to make it reasonable for desktop use.

I think you'd find quite a few people that would be annoyed if this wasn't at least an option. No, we didn't want to keep the laptop open just in order to keep it from going to sleep. Sure, a configurable option would be ok. But having a capability that is useful and regularly used doesn't count as a bug in my book. "Fixing" a "bug" like that would certainly cause complaints unless there was an option to undo the "fix".

(Sort of like the option in Mail.app in Lion to go back to the older interface. The new one looks like it was designed for a screen the size of a cell phone. Oh, wait; it looks that way because it was. Sure glad I could undo that. Though maybe it doesn't make much difference to me because in my experiments so far, I haven't found a single thing that I actually like better in Lion than Snow Leopard to make up for the several things I like less. I did pay my $30 for it, but I'm not at all sure I'm going to install it on anything other than the second partition on my MBP, which I'm using to experiment with. I'm more than half inclined to just wait 10.7 out and see what comes in 10.8.)

Jolly Roger replied on :

In article eezacque-856320.19381630072011@redacted.invalid, Izak van Langevelde eezacque@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article 300720110829581157%whanna@redacted.invalid, William Hanna whanna@redacted.invalid wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

When I connect a second display to my MacBook Pro and close the lid, I want the MacBook Pro to switch to use the second display as the main screen without going to sleep, which is exactly what it does. This is not a bug, IMO.

Izak van Langevelde replied on :

In article jollyroger-B3D2AB.20492530072011@redacted.invalid, Jolly Roger jollyroger@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article eezacque-856320.19381630072011@redacted.invalid, Izak van Langevelde eezacque@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article 300720110829581157%whanna@redacted.invalid, William Hanna whanna@redacted.invalid wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

When I connect a second display to my MacBook Pro and close the lid, I want the MacBook Pro to switch to use the second display as the main screen without going to sleep, which is exactly what it does. This is not a bug, IMO.

If the second display is switched off, it really doesn't make any sense to make it the main screen...

AES replied on :

In article eezacque-BB03B8.22121130072011@redacted.invalid, Izak van Langevelde eezacque@redacted.invalid wrote:

If the second display is switched off, it really doesn't make any sense to make it the main screen...

Note that the latest large Apple LED Cinema Display does not have any On/Off switch.

William Hanna replied on :

In article jollyroger-B3D2AB.20492530072011@redacted.invalid, Jolly Roger jollyroger@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article eezacque-856320.19381630072011@redacted.invalid, Izak van Langevelde eezacque@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article 300720110829581157%whanna@redacted.invalid, William Hanna whanna@redacted.invalid wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

When I connect a second display to my MacBook Pro and close the lid, I want the MacBook Pro to switch to use the second display as the main screen without going to sleep, which is exactly what it does. This is not a bug, IMO.

you don't have to close the MBP in order to make the second monitor the main monitor.

when i'm at home i always make my second big 27" monitor the main screen. but i want to use the MBP screen as a second screen.

this is easily done by opening the displays pref pane... selecting the "Arrangement" tab and dragging the white menu bar icon from the laptop screen to the external screen.

now the big external monitor is the "main screen" and you still have the MBP screen available also.

Jolly Roger replied on :

In article 300720112004456313%whanna@redacted.invalid, William Hanna whanna@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article jollyroger-B3D2AB.20492530072011@redacted.invalid, Jolly Roger jollyroger@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article eezacque-856320.19381630072011@redacted.invalid, Izak van Langevelde eezacque@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article 300720110829581157%whanna@redacted.invalid, William Hanna whanna@redacted.invalid wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

When I connect a second display to my MacBook Pro and close the lid, I want the MacBook Pro to switch to use the second display as the main screen without going to sleep, which is exactly what it does. This is not a bug, IMO.

you don't have to close the MBP in order to make the second monitor the main monitor.

I certainly do have to close the MBP lid to make the second monitor the only monitor, though, don't I?

when i'm at home i always make my second big 27" monitor the main screen. but i want to use the MBP screen as a second screen.

I don't want to use the MBP display at all when I have a second display connected.

Jolly Roger replied on :

In article eezacque-BB03B8.22121130072011@redacted.invalid, Izak van Langevelde eezacque@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article jollyroger-B3D2AB.20492530072011@redacted.invalid, Jolly Roger jollyroger@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article eezacque-856320.19381630072011@redacted.invalid, Izak van Langevelde eezacque@redacted.invalid wrote:

In article 300720110829581157%whanna@redacted.invalid, William Hanna whanna@redacted.invalid wrote:

Previously I simply shut the lid of my MBP and it went to sleep. Now, that doesn't work any longer and I must choose Sleep from the Apple menu.

Can I get Lion to behave like 10.6 in this respect?

Do you have a second screen attached? This will keep your MBP from falling asleep when its lid is closed. I consider this a bug.

When I connect a second display to my MacBook Pro and close the lid, I want the MacBook Pro to switch to use the second display as the main screen without going to sleep, which is exactly what it does. This is not a bug, IMO.

If the second display is switched off, it really doesn't make any sense to make it the main screen...

It's not switched off. That would be stupid.